To: Anthony Curzi
Zoning Permits North Section
Department of Regional Planning
320 W. Temple Street
Los Angeles, CA 90012
In response to your E-mail
From: Curzi, Anthony
To: David Jefferies
Cc: Norm Hickling ; Hua, Thuy ; Tae, Susan
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 4:50 PM
Subject: Antelope Valley Solar Project - Outreach and Notification
Mr Curzi I feel that we are in a "deje vue" again, here's snippets of a letter that was sent to Anthony Thurtel 1/25/2011 on the NRG project. Rather than re writing the letter over again I am letting you read the previous letters snippets that still apply to the DRP's attitude on informing the public out here. Please pay attention so I don't have to write the letter again.
(quoted from a letter a year ago)
You live in the cess pool called Los Angeles. I don't and do not desire to get up at 4:00 in the morning to drive to temple St (yes I have parked there many times) and be available at 9:00 for a hearing. I spent a better part of my life commuting to the downtown during the construction of the Metro Rail and do not desire to do it again. Your office feels that people in the far flung area of Los Angeles should come to the center of town, why don't you come out into the clean country and breath some less polluted air in Lancaster. It's a lot easier to move 3 people in the same car than burn gas for 15 to 20 cars (very wasteful)(makes money for parking)
I really disagree with your office placing materials at Rosamond Library for review. This is as far to go to than Lancaster Library. Nonetheless to say its in another county not Los Angeles county, where the Alpine Solar Project is placed. There is no relation for Kern County to handle Los Angeles County paper unless somebody wants to make it harder to find.
I work intimately with the Antelope Acres Town Council, Fairmont Town Council, 3 Corners Town Council, Quartz Hill Town Council and with the Regional Town Council and have chastised your Bosses and also patted them on the back on occasion. I also attend the "Illegal Dumping Task Force" sponsored by Mike Antonovich and on occasion come up with some ideas that Norm Hickling likes.
Basically I am trying to tell you not to sell us "rock kicking, bib-overall Podunk farmers" short on common sense or intelligence. There are a lot of high powered people that live here and are not satisfied with your performance.
Quoted from a year ago)
Return letter from Adam Thurtell
Distance-wise, the Rosamond Library is 25 miles from the project site and Quartz Hill is 27 miles. We try to select the most convenient library, and so we choose the closest library by distance, regardless of county. Rosamond Library was the location of the documents for the original hearing, without complaint. If you need to make arrangements to view or copy the file, let me know.
I wonder how far you have to go to get to a Library
Return letter to Adam Thurtell.
Your office has City mentality and doesn't understand the needs or desires of the rural area. Its just like your rep. one day in the Regional town council, she stated that we are rural and farming is extinct. She showed us the map and a lot of it became hot debate in the proceedings. Your office never comes out here unless they come with the NAT team and then a lot of the time it becomes a debate, which the DRP will not go to court. I have yet to have had a reasonable experience with your office. Many times DRP monopolizes the Regional Town Council meetings with what they want and do not budge on any subject or "we will take it into advisement".
As far as the library goes, none of the 76 people that I e-mailed were aware that Rosamond Library had the documents and to a man they asked why Rosamond. Rosamond library is 25 miles from the project site as the crow flies not as the model T drives. This possibly is why there were no complaints about the location, they weren't aware of the location because they don't go there.
Enough of this CYA garbage, use your common sense, would you go to a library out of the way for something you are not aware of???? The only reason they know now is I told them and they still can't understand why it's still there.
(quote)Distance-wise, the Rosamond Library is 25 miles from the project site and Quartz Hill is 27 miles. We try to select the most convenient library, and so we choose the closest library by distance, regardless of county. Rosamond Library was the location of the documents for the original hearing, without complaint. If you need to make arrangements to view or copy the file, let me know.(end quote)
Now I need not remind you that there are no Newspapers in this end of Antelope Valley. The AV Press refuses to deliver out here. So as you claim to advertise in the local papers it is in vain because we don’t get them.
Your out reach statements seem correct the January meeting is located at Fairmont Town Council site
The Antelope Acres video can be viewed at The Fairmont Town Council site
(quote)Outreach by Project Proponents – before DEIR circulation RRG presented the project - and answered questions - at well-attended public meetings held by following civic organizations:
Antelope Acres Town Council (October 2010)
Rosamond Municipal Advisory Council (November 2010)
Rosamond Community Services District (December 2010)
Fairmont Town Council (January 2011)
Three Points / Liebre Mountain Town Council (March 2011) (end quote)
I beg to differ with you. Yes one of us got a DVD but we were promised a Hard copy so we could make it available to our residents so they didn't have to drive 25 miles at $4.40 a gallon for gas.
No, as far as I can discern we did not get any information necessary to comment on the DEIR (deadline, contact information and the link to the DEIR on the Kern County Planning Department website.
(quote)Outreach by Project Proponents – during DEIR Circulation When the Draft EIR was released (April 2011), RRG worked to ensure the above organizations were aware of it and of their opportunity to comment. RRG emailed them with information necessary to comment on the DEIR (deadline, contact information and the link to the DEIR on the Kern County Planning Department website) and offered to answer any questions and provide any further information(end quote)
Yes January 2011 was a presentation (1 year ago) But the may Fairmont Town Council Meeting
was a short "we have to go to another meeting " and nothing was presented of value. See video
(quote) During the DEIR public comment period, RRG personally attended the public meetings of the organizations who wished it: Antelope Acres Town Council (May 2011), Fairmont Town Council (May 2011), and Rosamond Municipal Advisory Council (May 2011). At those meetings, RRG announced the public comment period and provided information on how to review and comment on the project’s DEIR.(end quote)
I am sure that Norm Hickling didn't want a troop of Hillbilly Hicks tromping into his office to look at a bunch of documents that could have been placed in the Weevil market along with the "Element Power docs", Nextera docs", "NRG docs" and the AVSR1 docs.
(quote) Additionally, RRG took two printed copies of the DEIR to Supervisor Antonovich's Antelope Valley office, so that they could make one available at that office and could arrange with the Lancaster Public Library for the second copy to be available to the public there.(end quote)
Seems to me that you pay more attention to people that don't live in the area, than you do for the ones that do live in the impact zone. Why didn't you or them have discussions with our local residents?
I wish to inform you that the groups like "FAVOS", "Concerned Citizens of the west Antelope Valley", "Prima" and others don't live in the CQLA area much less in the western Valley. ( I have a list of members and only one lives in Antelope Acres the rest reside in the lower 48.
(quote) Outreach by Project Proponents – Additional
RRG reached out to and held discussions with Audubon California, Sierra Club, the California Department of Fish and Game, and several local landowners in response to their comments on the NOP and DEIR. .(end quote)
As far as the signs they may have posted signs but as I use Ave "A" to go to town I have not seen any and anybody I talk to doesn't remember seeing any, By all means this doesn't mean that they weren’t there , we didn't see them.
(quote) Outreach by Project Proponents – before public hearing on CUP RRG posted signs at the site with notification of the public hearing. RRG directly notified the following Town Councils and offered to meet with them:(end quote)
I think this was covered above, but we have a 6 to 7 month lag in communication of nothing.
Antelope Acres Town Council
Fairmont Town Council
Oso Town Council
Three Points / Liebre Mountain Town Counci
From the minutes of the Aug 2011 meeting.
They made a quick talk and left for a Rosamond meeting which is the same time and day as FTC.
b. Mr. Tom Eisenhower of Renewable Resources Group:
• Proposed project is at 1 70th Street West. It is 75 % in Kern County and 25% in L.A. County.
• Mostly it is located between 160th Street West and 130tn Street West.
• Their E.L R. will be certified by Kern County Planning.
• Their E.L R.is to be submitted to L.A. County Planning Commission.
• Construction will take up to 3 years.
• They will plan to hire local workers
In August 2011, RRG attended the Fairmont Town Council community meeting, where RRG announced the upcoming hearing and delivered information about the how the public could comment on the project before or at the hearing.
From OSO Town Council minutes for September 2011
Tom Eisenhauer of Renewable Resources Group described their proposed project.
Antelope Valley Solar will straddle the Los Angeles/Kern County Line around 170th Street West. The project will occupy about 4,000 acres - 75% in Kern County and 25% in Los Angeles County, adjacent to the Whirlwind Substation at Holiday Avenue. The project is located on private property which has been previously disturbed by farming.
Scheduled to begin construction sometime in 2013 with construction lasting about 36 months, RRG expects to hire about 650 people for construction jobs.
Less than 7 minutes of talk time
In September 2011, RRG presented the project – and answered questions and solicited feedback – at a well-attended public meeting of the Oso Town Council. .(end quote)
So as you can see that I too can compile a list of things that I claim are correct, and I can back them up with videos and documents. Can you?
larry T edited 27-03-2012 10:25 AM this post because:
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